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<<0>> hi and welcome to DOA U the official
<<3>> podcast of DOA Europe on this podcast
<<6>> you will hear from worldclass speakers
<<8>> and expert on education inspiration and
<<11>> actionable tips to help you live your
<<13>> best daa life my name is ludel C product
<<16>> education manager of DOA Europe and
<<19>> pleased to be your host today today I am
<<21>> speaking to presidential Diamond danela
<<24>> hen danela or Dany is someone I have
<<27>> admired for some years now she's a
<<29>> fellow and is an absolute inspiration on
<<32>> how you can run a successful business
<<34>> but also how to maintain a balanced and
<<37>> healthy life at the same
<<39>> time please note that this episode is
<<42>> also available in German okay let's get
<<47>> started so Danny you obviously are a
<<50>> wellness Powerhouse I would really like
<<52>> to start by asking you to give us a
<<54>> description on who you are and why you
<<56>> do what you do I do what I do because
<<60>> I love a healthy lifestyle I think that
<<63>> was even before I met to Tera and the
<<67>> oils um I actually um always loved being
<<72>> outside on walks and exercising enjoying
<<77>> healthy food and everything around that
<<79>> but when I got introduced to the oils I
<<83>> think a lot changed in terms
<<87>> of finding even more time connecting
<<89>> with my myself um because 2016 I met the
<<93>> oils and also um had my first yoga
<<96>> teacher training um so it came both into
<<100>> my life and that really changed
<<102>> everything I know obviously we've Spen
<<105>> before and you have quite a unique story
<<107>> and I think it would be very inspiring
<<109>> for people um to hear about your story
<<112>> so can you tell us about your life back
<<114>> in Australia before you found a era yes
<<117>> um I H I'm I'm holding business degree
<<120>> and it was um an international study
<<124>> program where I also have to go abroad
<<127>> and so I spent 2005 um about half a year
<<131>> in Australia um at um at the Gold Coast
<<135>> surface Paradise um it was really
<<137>> paradise and um I I fell in love um with
<<142>> a with a guy and and we had a
<<144>> longdistance relationship for three
<<146>> years uh always with the with the goal
<<150>> to move to Australia together and we
<<152>> realized that in 2008 so I left Germany
<<156>> actually with the idea I'm going for
<<159>> good I will move to Australia and that's
<<162>> it because I was mly in love and I
<<164>> really thought at the time this is the
<<166>> guy I would marry um we we had an
<<169>> amazing time and um when I reflect on
<<173>> that time I also know that it was an
<<175>> important piece um on my journey also to
<<180>> build a network um and to be a a
<<184>> professional also salesperson I mean
<<186>> we're not just sharing oils we also do
<<189>> sales and um um with my partner John at
<<193>> the time because the options um were
<<196>> also being a nanny which I did and
<<198>> working um as a bartender which I also
<<201>> did um both both a little out of my
<<204>> comfort zone because I was holding a
<<206>> really good degree um but a lot of
<<209>> people think you just a Backpacker um
<<212>> moving through and I always said no I'm
<<214>> here to stay um and there were also some
<<217>> Visa issues so we started actually a job
<<222>> which meant basically knocking on doors
<<225>> and
<<226>> selling um a program for kids to the
<<230>> parents um just a tutor program and as
<<234>> you can imagine it was not the easiest
<<236>> of all jobs but we learned a lot from
<<239>> our
<<240>> um yeah from our mentor about sales and
<<244>> one important phrase it's still in my
<<247>> mind and I I think I I said it already
<<250>> to my team if you tell you won't sell if
<<254>> you ask why they will buy and that
<<257>> really stuck in my head because it's
<<260>> about the why and then finding the the
<<265>> problem and offering a
<<267>> solution and I think with d Tera we have
<<270>> so many amazing Solutions and it's about
<<273>> listening and connecting to people even
<<276>> if they are you know not just your
<<278>> friends um and building that Rapport
<<281>> that connection you know in the very
<<283>> first minutes of meeting
<<286>> someone well and I think this is a very
<<289>> foundational um skill I got to learn
<<292>> there even not knowing that I will use
<<295>> it many years later and sounded like
<<299>> this first job kind of prepared you a
<<301>> little bit for this business which is
<<304>> incredible so the universe had is on had
<<307>> a plan yes although I was very unhappy
<<310>> at the time at some point because um it
<<313>> was not what I wanted to do but at some
<<315>> point I I got a a job in sales and
<<318>> marketing and I got to travel a lot so I
<<321>> always um yeah learned to sales site um
<<325>> selling advertisements um in the
<<327>> broadcast industry which was
<<330>> male dominated industry but um I always
<<334>> knew that if I walk into a room with a
<<336>> smile and you know with an open heart
<<340>> you know I will I will catch people and
<<343>> um yeah and with the marketing in all of
<<346>> that I I I think I learned also how to
<<350>> Market myself and you know whatever
<<353>> there is your offering like how learning
<<356>> how to Market yourself and to present
<<358>> yourself when you are there people are
<<361>> buying products but also they need to
<<364>> buy you in inverted commas they buy they
<<368>> buy you because you're an inspiration
<<371>> they buy from you I want to say they're
<<374>> not buying me actually um but they're
<<376>> buying my time you know and how I care
<<380>> but um if you if you really embody and
<<383>> live you know the lifestyle and and all
<<386>> of that if it's really authentic and and
<<390>> true to yourself then it's also
<<392>> authentic to others and I think this is
<<395>> one of the things that we need to keep
<<397>> in mind nowadays that it's not about
<<400>> making it just look good and have a good
<<403>> slogan you know this is back in the days
<<405>> with all the the the the pr you know and
<<409>> all of that it's more about really going
<<411>> out sharing from your own experience
<<415>> your own
<<416>> story and this is where I connect to
<<419>> people people even even now doesn't this
<<423>> come from like practice and and learning
<<426>> and experiences cuz maybe at the
<<428>> beginning you think oh if I just package
<<430>> this whatever this is in a really nice
<<433>> way people will get it people will buy
<<435>> it and then after a while you learn that
<<437>> actually you have to be true to yourself
<<439>> to be able to to do this business when I
<<443>> started this business it was not with
<<446>> the idea of okay I will be presidential
<<450>> Diamond at some point because in 2016
<<453>> and it was more 2017 when I started to
<<457>> share the oils there were not so many
<<459>> people in Europe already at the top
<<463>> there were not so many like business
<<466>> Inspirations in Europe um and actually I
<<470>> I didn't look so much to the US market
<<472>> and and was involved in following people
<<475>> who were already maybe you know at
<<477>> higher ranks I just shared purely
<<481>> because I love the oils and I'm always
<<484>> someone I'm I'm a sharer I'm a I'm a
<<487>> Aquarius um with my star sign and um
<<490>> Aquarius is a natural
<<492>> networker I still in touch um with all
<<496>> the people I know from back in the days
<<498>> in Australia I am really good in keeping
<<502>> connections um with my friends and and
<<505>> even people I randomly know and um I'm
<<509>> just going out having fun and and and
<<512>> sharing and talking about it and this is
<<515>> I think what helped me a lot in the
<<517>> beginning um because people just felt
<<520>> that energy that is beautiful I love
<<522>> that you also mention your star sign
<<525>> just just like that and how it's part of
<<527>> your nature uh so I can also share my
<<530>> human design a lot of people actually in
<<532>> my team you know they introduced
<<534>> themselves with the human design I think
<<536>> it's something you know um maybe you
<<539>> know know in those modern days I'm a
<<541>> generator I'm a generator
<<544>> 1.3 and I know that in my chart a lot of
<<549>> the centers my root is um defined and
<<553>> also my my Crone so this means I have a
<<556>> lot of energy like an engine you know
<<558>> the engine is running plus I have the
<<561>> connection to something I call Universe
<<564>> you know a higher presence um where I
<<567>> always feel all the answers are given to
<<570>> me when I know that need need to know
<<573>> them so you mentioned energy so my next
<<576>> question is have you ever experience
<<577>> burnout I'm guessing yes but can you
<<581>> walk us through that experience and
<<583>> maybe what you learned from that it was
<<585>> actually I think one of the most
<<587>> important times in my life and I um last
<<592>> year at convention in Lisbon I talked
<<594>> about this on stage because it was um
<<597>> just also reflecting back on the time I
<<601>> realized it was really important for
<<604>> me it cracked me open in a way um it
<<607>> really allowed me to to change my path
<<610>> in life and it all started because my
<<615>> life in Australia started to crumble I
<<618>> had Visa issues because I was not dating
<<620>> that guy anymore and then my I got a um
<<625>> my job got determinated and all the
<<628>> signs were like like go home to Germany
<<631>> and I was really fighting and and really
<<635>> trying to stay because I was like no I
<<637>> want to stay at some point I felt like
<<641>> there is no energy left anymore you know
<<644>> I I lost that battle so I went home and
<<647>> really felt like a failure because with
<<649>> 31 I moved back into the house of my
<<653>> parents in my kids room
<<656>> basically W with in you know I thought
<<660>> with nothing because my friends they
<<662>> were mostly married and they had great
<<665>> jobs and they they were kind of set up
<<668>> in life and I felt like all the years I
<<671>> spent in Australia were just a waste of
<<673>> time because I was back to zero and um I
<<678>> at that time I was just focusing on the
<<682>> outside on what you have on the outside
<<686>> like a job a relationship
<<689>> um and I felt so worthless honestly I
<<693>> felt
<<694>> so I'm not worth anything and that
<<698>> really brought me into a very dark hole
<<701>> I didn't have the oils or anything to
<<704>> support me I didn't know yoga at the
<<706>> time I didn't meditate I I was unaware
<<709>> that there is a universe within me that
<<712>> there is a place within me with a lot of
<<714>> light I really thought I lost it I
<<717>> really thought this is over now and it
<<719>> was around six
<<721>> months where I walked through this yeah
<<724>> deep valley but I'm I'm very proud and
<<730>> happy that I managed by myself by by
<<733>> myself with the help of amazing people
<<735>> that got sent to me I was guided to them
<<739>> people who could see that I don't need a
<<743>> pill I need some tools and then I
<<747>> started my first coaching training and I
<<750>> got in touch with a lot of people call
<<752>> it a higher self an energy that is
<<755>> divine um a presence this is so much
<<759>> bigger than we are as just human people
<<761>> in this body and tears were running down
<<764>> my face when I had that connection for
<<767>> the first time I was like Wow and that
<<770>> was basically the start of my and all
<<774>> also you can say spiritual
<<776>> journey and I was in 200
<<779>> 13 so it's 11 years ago and I'm I'm
<<783>> still on the journey and it never never
<<785>> ends and in Lisbon on stage at the
<<788>> convention I was talking about the
<<790>> butterfly how the butterfly the
<<792>> caterpillar needs to go into a cocoon
<<795>> stay there for a while so the butterfly
<<798>> can actually grow and the wings you need
<<800>> to fly and last year two three months
<<806>> after that convention I've really felt
<<809>> felt like another metamorphosis started
<<811>> to happen and um I was like really and I
<<815>> was not burned out but there was an a
<<819>> lot of emotions coming up and also
<<823>> looking at the darker sides you know of
<<825>> yourself and allowing this to show and I
<<828>> think a lot of people feel the same and
<<831>> because the times right now we in are
<<834>> yeah a bit challenging in a way I hear
<<836>> it from so many people in my network
<<839>> work or new clients I talk to most of
<<841>> the people they need something to calm
<<844>> their mind to balance their emotions so
<<848>> I would say emotional healing is one of
<<850>> the top things we need to look at you
<<853>> have no idea Danny how much this
<<855>> resonates with me personally as I'm I'm
<<857>> sure with many other listeners as well
<<859>> um I went through a similar phase a
<<861>> couple of years ago I had to relocate
<<863>> back home and it was a very tumultuous
<<866>> um challenging time and I'm sure
<<869>> 100% sure that this resonates with so
<<871>> many people so thank you for sharing
<<873>> that I think you always need to remember
<<875>> if you go through a darker time in your
<<877>> life um that there is something magical
<<881>> happening in that those moments it's
<<883>> like the you know this that's why I love
<<886>> the the image of the caterpillar turning
<<889>> into the butterfly it needs this going
<<893>> inside it needs this sometimes pressure
<<897>> also you know how to create diamonds
<<900>> the pressure and um there's always
<<903>> really there's always a gift within this
<<907>> part of your life the the challenge I
<<909>> guess is that sometimes you cannot see
<<912>> the reason why you're going through
<<913>> those or you know to see that there is
<<916>> an exit and of course there is an exit
<<918>> there is a way out always but sometimes
<<920>> it's challenging to to realize there is
<<923>> a way out there is a something else
<<926>> something better something different uh
<<928>> that's waiting on the other side of this
<<930>> dark
<<932>> moment I think all you need is Faith all
<<935>> you need is to trust there's one phrase
<<939>> or sentence I always have in mind the
<<942>> universe is a friendly
<<943>> one nothing is happening just to you
<<947>> it's happening for you and it's
<<950>> happening for you I call it Awakening
<<953>> and with the Awakening I mean for me for
<<956>> example back in the days realizing
<<959>> even if on the outside things are
<<962>> missing it has nothing to do it's not
<<965>> related to my
<<966>> worth I run with one of my leaders just
<<970>> recently the I am worthy challenge or
<<973>> Journey it's a five week program but by
<<977>> D delune um another great leader from
<<981>> the US um it's a it's a book it's that's
<<984>> available and realizing that you're
<<987>> actually worth it no matter what whether
<<990>> you have a job or relationship how much
<<992>> money you're earning which rank you're
<<994>> holding it's this is this is the
<<997>> Awakening and also knowing okay it's
<<999>> it's me in this body um and I might have
<<1003>> some drama going on but there is
<<1005>> something even bigger and an even
<<1008>> greater plan for me I think that comes
<<1011>> with a lot of maturity and
<<1012>> self-awareness and uh we always say this
<<1015>> journey is a self-discovery journey
<<1018>> right
<<1019>> it's something that you keep learning
<<1020>> every day you unrep yourself your true
<<1023>> self you know um yeah one of the phrases
<<1025>> everyone heard before is like it's
<<1027>> self-development wrapped in essential o
<<1029>> oils I think I heard this at my first
<<1031>> convention 2017 in Amsterdam and it was
<<1034>> a very small convention back in the days
<<1037>> and I was like ah interesting but I was
<<1039>> interested in you know developing myself
<<1042>> my
<<1043>> personality and looking back I can say
<<1048>> yes
<<1049>> it's mostly that you know if you really
<<1052>> think that you just need a couple good
<<1054>> sales tricks um and tools to to rock
<<1058>> that business I really believe that you
<<1061>> need to be willing to grow inside
<<1064>> because your inside is a reflection of
<<1066>> the outside so if you're not really
<<1068>> stretching yourself from the inside and
<<1070>> willing to grow I don't think that the
<<1074>> outside and in in terms of the business
<<1077>> it's the the size of your organ
<<1078>> organization and your team and your rank
<<1082>> that this won't flow easily yeah you
<<1085>> might achieve it with a lot of strengths
<<1089>> you know physical strengths and this
<<1092>> might lead you to another
<<1095>> burnout because I I also see also in our
<<1098>> Wellness industry people running
<<1100>> themselves into the ground because I
<<1103>> mean we're in the business of caring for
<<1106>> other people and really with the
<<1109>> with the Thea vision of helping the
<<1112>> world heal but this means and I'm going
<<1115>> through this myself you need to heal
<<1117>> yourself first how am I able to help
<<1121>> anyone else if I'm not feeling
<<1124>> well nourished and with a full energy
<<1128>> tank you know so um yeah yeah I love
<<1133>> this and we've spoken about this a
<<1135>> couple of days ago um I'm really
<<1137>> passionate about this topic so please
<<1140>> Danny um tell us something about your
<<1142>> self-care routine and what it means for
<<1144>> you um what what are you willing to
<<1147>> share with
<<1147>> us everything thank you well I think
<<1152>> this is my top priority um in my life um
<<1156>> and I just um ran a retreat here where I
<<1160>> live at tan which is outside of Munich
<<1162>> with 25 people and I was teaching yoga
<<1166>> I'm not an active yoga instructor
<<1168>> anymore so I don't have regular classes
<<1170>> or anything I stopped this in 2020 but I
<<1173>> still love teaching um in in Retreat and
<<1177>> I was sharing meditations with them but
<<1180>> most of it we really you know I I really
<<1184>> told them what I do on a daily basis
<<1188>> because it's the daily actions that lead
<<1190>> to success or that lead to you know you
<<1194>> really feel good even if the going gets
<<1197>> rough and for me and my partner
<<1200>> Christian it's it's yeah getting up
<<1202>> fairly early we're rather early birds
<<1205>> than you know late late birds going to
<<1208>> bed so we love going to bed early having
<<1211>> at least I love to sleep you know having
<<1214>> at least eight hours um sometimes more
<<1219>> and then getting up having our yoga
<<1221>> routine and then we meditate I think
<<1225>> meditation is so important because this
<<1227>> is the moment in the morning where I
<<1229>> connect to the source where I connect to
<<1232>> the universal chat GPT and I got answers
<<1236>> if I have questions I got energy I I can
<<1240>> download the light I need I everything
<<1243>> is available I just need to be able and
<<1246>> willing to to plug in and then we have a
<<1250>> a new routine it's not that new anymore
<<1252>> but since a year basically of having um
<<1256>> ceremonial raw caca in the morning so so
<<1258>> I'm not drinking coffee anymore um and
<<1261>> actually this is also cute and so I'm
<<1264>> sharing it I was at the global
<<1266>> presidential Diamond trip for the first
<<1268>> time last year I was invited I this is a
<<1270>> big deal it's the biggest incentive you
<<1272>> can you can be part of and we were in
<<1274>> Jordan and also it was the first trip
<<1277>> after the the break after the pandemic
<<1280>> um so we were even more people and um I
<<1284>> think by the end of the trip we were um
<<1287>> at the um at the see with hanging out
<<1289>> with some of the presidential diamonds
<<1291>> and then um um James BBY um husband of
<<1296>> roxan BBY and she's actually the sister
<<1299>> of Natalie Gard so this is the
<<1301>> connection he he was talking about cacao
<<1304>> and he's so crazy about cacao he brought
<<1306>> all the equipment and so other PDS were
<<1308>> saying yeah we're also drinking cacao
<<1311>> and it's like okay there must be
<<1313>> something about cacao and S success in
<<1316>> that business and presidential diamonds
<<1319>> and so we actually started last summer
<<1322>> to have our cacao routine I shared this
<<1324>> a lot on Instagram and and I I think I
<<1328>> already got a lot of people hooked on it
<<1330>> and I have also dear fellow leader Emily
<<1333>> mascarinas from the UK and she's also a
<<1336>> caca lover and um so we have our cacao
<<1339>> routine in the morning and
<<1342>> um then we pick some cards you know so
<<1346>> get some inspiration for the day are we
<<1348>> talking T reading yeah tarot but also
<<1350>> other like cards you know and they giv
<<1354>> you gives you also like a little nut
<<1357>> sometimes you know hey you need to look
<<1358>> at that or here you know go that way and
<<1362>> then I probably schedule you know calls
<<1366>> from 10 10:30 onwards like mentoring
<<1368>> calls I go mostly outside you know I
<<1371>> love my walks I'm I'm a
<<1374>> walker in nature you know and I know
<<1377>> some people like Jud it judge it because
<<1380>> they say like oh you go outside and you
<<1383>> go for a walk and but you're not
<<1385>> enjoying nature because you're on a on a
<<1388>> call and I was reflecting on that
<<1390>> because I call it walk and talk you know
<<1393>> and I was like what isn't it better to
<<1395>> be outside with fresh air sun in my face
<<1399>> than being stuck in front of a zoom and
<<1402>> a laptop you know so sorry I choose that
<<1406>> because when I'm walking I'm in emotion
<<1409>> and all my thoughts come naturally I
<<1411>> have great ideas and there's a certain
<<1414>> energy also running through me and I
<<1418>> hear it over and over again people on
<<1420>> the other side you know my my mene they
<<1424>> will tell me afterward War this was so
<<1426>> energizing yeah I'm sure you can pass on
<<1429>> the energy to them like you're
<<1430>> recharging yourself but you're passing
<<1432>> on the energy to them and I do something
<<1434>> that nourish me that makes me feel good
<<1436>> and that that I love
<<1439>> and I I think we're all choosing this
<<1441>> business for a reason of freedom of a of
<<1443>> a reason of being being free to to
<<1447>> choose how we do it and um yeah I've
<<1450>> always done it like that and I I'm not
<<1454>> someone being stuck in front of my
<<1456>> computer for a lot I'm I'm happy about
<<1458>> that and actually that triggered my next
<<1460>> question and I wanted to ask you why did
<<1463>> you pick network
<<1465>> marketing I think network marketing
<<1467>> picked me it was really it was I think
<<1471>> it's a calling um with looking back on
<<1474>> my history and as I said all the little
<<1476>> puzzle pieces they just it was the
<<1479>> picture that was laid out for me it's
<<1482>> it's my Souls plan to to use a network
<<1487>> you know and and creating a a big
<<1489>> organization to feed a certain energy
<<1492>> and message into my team because people
<<1495>> who know me and maybe H me at
<<1498>> conventions or you know the German
<<1501>> speaking crowd my own podcast you know I
<<1505>> I do my business in a very conscious way
<<1508>> and I bring even my you know
<<1511>> spirituality from yoga and everything
<<1513>> like that into my business and then I
<<1516>> think for me it works perfectly and I
<<1520>> even study I'm a student of a course in
<<1524>> Miracle some people might know that I I
<<1527>> even read a little paragraph from a book
<<1530>> A Return To Love from Marian Williamson
<<1533>> which is a great um inspirational book I
<<1536>> can highly recommend um and this course
<<1539>> really changed my life and also in is
<<1542>> infused into my business because the
<<1545>> principles are very easy I always have a
<<1548>> choice I can choose love or I can choose
<<1551>> fear and the one thing connects me to
<<1553>> other people and the other thing fear
<<1557>> Separates Me
<<1558>> and if you want to live a
<<1561>> network style and you want to create a
<<1563>> big Network you need to be willing to
<<1565>> connect to a lot of people so yeah this
<<1569>> is what I do and um so I think it's not
<<1572>> that I consciously went out there and
<<1575>> looked for an opportunity to be
<<1578>> self-employed I actually had never the
<<1580>> the wish to run my own business it just
<<1584>> was a natural flow of things um and each
<<1587>> door that opened as just said okay I go
<<1591>> through it I try I started this business
<<1594>> full-time in 2018 without any doubts any
<<1599>> doubts that I could fail without any
<<1601>> doubt that you would be able to do it
<<1604>> and I thought what is the worst thing
<<1606>> that could happen um because I I quit my
<<1609>> job it's like I will find another
<<1612>> job I I just give it a shot and I think
<<1615>> a lot of people are being hold P back by
<<1619>> their own doubts and maybe fears of not
<<1624>> being successful and then I'm thinking
<<1626>> just do one step at a time it's like
<<1629>> walking up a mountain you know we're
<<1631>> surrounded here by a lot of mountains
<<1633>> it's like when I start hiking I never
<<1637>> see the top but I see the path in front
<<1640>> of me and I choose actively to each step
<<1644>> to go and maybe if I need a break I
<<1647>> break but I I really want to go to the
<<1649>> top so that's my commitment to keep
<<1651>> going so what is the biggest challenge
<<1654>> you've encountered while on this journey
<<1656>> while building your daa business and
<<1658>> what did you learn from it I think the
<<1661>> biggest challenge for me personally was
<<1664>> to watch and to respect my own
<<1668>> boundaries and my
<<1671>> own also energy boundaries because um I
<<1675>> was after the relationship break up from
<<1678>> Australia um I was on my own I was
<<1682>> single for eight years um also when I
<<1684>> started the business so I had a lot of
<<1686>> time you know I had no family in that
<<1689>> way that I was not married no kids and I
<<1691>> fully gave everything I had to this
<<1695>> business and also yoga and trainings and
<<1698>> I went to all the events and I I reached
<<1702>> the rank silver gold diamond I was never
<<1706>> Platinum actually um and never lost the
<<1708>> rank so for me it was just um keep going
<<1713>> and I never rewarded myself in terms of
<<1717>> really being proud of myself I just
<<1719>> pushed through and you know more there's
<<1722>> more to achieve and um in 2020 by the
<<1726>> end of 2020 when I hit Blue Diamond um I
<<1730>> met Christian and you know then I had
<<1734>> someone watching me on a daily basis and
<<1736>> really telling me how much I actually do
<<1740>> how because and this the Terra business
<<1743>> sorry it doesn't feel like work still
<<1745>> it's not work for me but is you know so
<<1748>> I need time to recover um and I could
<<1753>> feel it sometimes with you know symptoms
<<1756>> of my body really telling me hey you
<<1758>> need to
<<1759>> rest and I think within the last year
<<1762>> and people tell me that so I know it's
<<1765>> true it's happening a lot of things
<<1767>> change I watch my energy I think I'm
<<1770>> softer I'm maybe more feminine in a way
<<1775>> of because the feminine energy is also
<<1778>> the energy of receiving and
<<1780>> allowing of letting go a little bit
<<1784>> surrendering and the male energy is more
<<1788>> of ah I push through I you know I go so
<<1792>> do you think you were in um in your
<<1795>> masculine energy for quite a long time I
<<1798>> think so yes and I think a lot of people
<<1801>> or a lot of women can relate I I talked
<<1804>> about this a lot and it's also because
<<1806>> we come from a time really dominated in
<<1810>> general by that energy and there is a
<<1813>> shift happening right now and I think
<<1815>> everyone can feel that shift you know
<<1818>> and it's about that the the feminine
<<1823>> doesn't have to
<<1825>> be doesn't have to carry that male
<<1829>> energy within I mean we are both it's a
<<1832>> it's like a dance between both and I
<<1835>> think you cannot just say oh I'm just on
<<1838>> the one side or I'm just on the other
<<1840>> side even men have and this is like man
<<1844>> Christian is one of those guys allowing
<<1846>> feelings and to to communicate that he
<<1850>> loves to hang out with a lot of women
<<1853>> and he still feels comfortable it's it's
<<1855>> like you know a person who is sensitive
<<1858>> enough um to yeah to also to feel the
<<1862>> other person and I think we embody both
<<1866>> and um I think there's a new also way
<<1870>> for us women to do this business I
<<1873>> absolutely love that that could be part
<<1874>> of a whole other podcast where we just
<<1876>> talk about feminine and masculine energy
<<1879>> maybe and still yeah and it's still it's
<<1881>> about the nourishing Parts I think if
<<1884>> you also for example this is something
<<1887>> new new to me as well um as a woman you
<<1892>> mostly have still your moon cycle you
<<1894>> know and you also need to respect that
<<1896>> not every day is the same um when you're
<<1900>> in the beginning of your cycle you might
<<1902>> need to rest a little more um and for me
<<1905>> I since two three months I realized that
<<1910>> I can honor my body a bit more when I'm
<<1914>> going through that um there are other
<<1916>> cultures where this is
<<1918>> more natural for women to do they they
<<1920>> just you know they have a tent and they
<<1922>> lay there and they get served with you
<<1925>> know um and and I think this is
<<1927>> beautiful also to talk about this
<<1929>> because this business you know should or
<<1934>> allows us you know this is probably more
<<1937>> the word it allows us to to really pay
<<1940>> attention also to those times um or yeah
<<1945>> when we just feel we need a break we
<<1947>> need to rest
<<1948>> because if you hold space for so many
<<1950>> other people in your team again you know
<<1953>> just coming out of the retreat um I I
<<1955>> hold the space for a lot of
<<1957>> people it it's tiring a bit Yeah I think
<<1961>> we live in a society that teaches us
<<1963>> that it's always go time you know it's
<<1965>> always go go go do do do so it it really
<<1968>> it's about relearning and rewiring
<<1971>> ourselves a little bit maybe to allow
<<1973>> that moment of rest like no actually I
<<1975>> need that in in order to be able to
<<1978>> serve uh to serve other better totally
<<1981>> totally right um because if and this is
<<1985>> I think linked still to the idea or the
<<1989>> pattern we we have in ourselves that we
<<1992>> need to perform to be worth it um and
<<1996>> that just through performance on the
<<1998>> outside we deserve
<<2001>> something and we need to break that
<<2003>> pattern within us and this comes with
<<2006>> healing with going to the parts of our
<<2010>> self that still think that they need to
<<2015>> perform and it's not about not
<<2017>> performing you know but it's it's not
<<2019>> the performance we like okay I you know
<<2022>> people praising themselves working 80
<<2025>> hours a week for example you know you
<<2028>> can do it for you know certain times in
<<2031>> your life you know but I think when you
<<2033>> grow older or when you choose a network
<<2038>> you get aware that this is not probably
<<2041>> the lifestyle you really want MH yeah oh
<<2046>> Daniel I think I could speak about this
<<2049>> for a very very long time but um I do
<<2051>> have a couple more question for you so
<<2053>> one is if you could go back in time and
<<2055>> speak with your younger selves what
<<2058>> advice would you give you comparing
<<2060>> yourself now to Danny when you started
<<2063>> the business the advice would be girl
<<2066>> relax a little bit you you know recharge
<<2069>> yourself after you've achieved something
<<2072>> amazing um be proud of yourself you
<<2075>> really have to learn to be proud of
<<2077>> yourself clap on your own shoulders and
<<2080>> um recognize yourself for everything you
<<2085>> do yeah this is really something someone
<<2088>> told me I have a lot of also spiritual
<<2090>> coaches and and people you know
<<2092>> supporting me in the background and she
<<2094>> told me once really dannie you need to
<<2096>> learn that you need need to be proud of
<<2098>> yourself and then Christian was
<<2101>> reminding me in the beginning is like
<<2103>> have you been proud of yourself like
<<2104>> each day because there's always
<<2106>> something we can be so proud of um
<<2110>> ourselves so how do you keep track with
<<2112>> that um gratitude now uh today do you
<<2116>> have like a Tracker do you have like a
<<2117>> moment of
<<2119>> gratitude I think it's constantly more
<<2121>> or less you know but when I go to bed
<<2125>> and we we have a really comfy bed you
<<2127>> know I lay there and I'm
<<2129>> like this is amazing and I thank for
<<2132>> that day even when there were
<<2134>> challenging conversations or stuff
<<2136>> because those are actually the moments
<<2138>> where we can grow and where I can
<<2141>> practice what I've learned in yoga in
<<2145>> the course of
<<2147>> Miracles and and I can reflect and I
<<2149>> think being grateful even for the things
<<2154>> where you're like oh I don't want it
<<2156>> that way
<<2158>> remember you know the universe is a
<<2160>> friendly one knowing that this is
<<2163>> happening for you this is happening
<<2166>> actually for you know something where
<<2169>> you might you know see it differently
<<2172>> later or you know I don't know why in
<<2175>> that moment but it will make sense at
<<2177>> some time in the future the last
<<2181>> question I have for you Danny is how
<<2183>> would you describe yourself in one word
<<2185>> and
<<2186>> why a lot of people told that to me
<<2189>> Lighthouse or Miracle Worker no but the
<<2193>> lighthouse is is I think uh a very nice
<<2197>> analogy to I you know as I connect
<<2202>> myself to
<<2204>> those Universal energies um to to a
<<2207>> loving presence I you know I feel myself
<<2212>> with light and that shines on the path
<<2216>> of others so they can walk their path
<<2219>> it's not about me dragging someone this
<<2222>> is very important also in the business
<<2225>> everyone has a free will and we cannot
<<2228>> force someone and even if we think
<<2231>> someone is so you know so perfect for
<<2234>> the business you know there's always
<<2237>> Divine timing what I can do as a
<<2241>> lighthouse shine even brighter like the
<<2244>> boat so they can find their way home
<<2247>> going to shore to the harbor and um yeah
<<2251>> so I really consider myself as one of
<<2254>> those light workers energy workers um or
<<2258>> with the course miracle workers because
<<2261>> they choose actually always love is an
<<2264>> answer and I know how difficult it is I
<<2267>> fail a lot because this is really hard
<<2270>> you know to be connected to love all the
<<2272>> time but um you get better on it because
<<2276>> it's like almost like an inner muscle
<<2279>> you're training I was just talking about
<<2281>> that the past days to the people it's
<<2283>> like you need to go to a kind of
<<2286>> spiritual gym you know you need to kind
<<2288>> of train your attitudinal muscle so you
<<2292>> able to switch back even when your ego
<<2296>> tells you you know to fight or to judge
<<2299>> or you know
<<2300>> to to go after someone just coming back
<<2305>> to your own peace of mind
<<2308>> coming back and knowing and this is very
<<2311>> important that we're all one and
<<2314>> whatever you give into a field it's like
<<2318>> an energy field whatever you give into
<<2320>> your
<<2321>> team you will
<<2323>> receive you receive what you give and if
<<2328>> you want to receive something you need
<<2330>> to be willing to give it first it's like
<<2333>> a cycle it's like a you know it it all
<<2336>> goes around you know what comes around
<<2338>> goes around you know and this is there
<<2340>> are some universal laws and I know Elena
<<2344>> has spoken here also and I know also
<<2347>> that she lives by those laws and I see
<<2349>> people thriving um in the business
<<2352>> having the higher ranks and I know
<<2355>> they're connected to something so much
<<2357>> bigger and greater than just their human
<<2361>> presence I absolutely adore the the
<<2363>> metaphor the analysis that you made uh
<<2366>> with the lighthouse I think you
<<2368>> definitely are a guide for many people
<<2370>> in the business uh and you are an
<<2372>> inspiration so thank you for being so um
<<2375>> gracious and generous to share your
<<2377>> knowledge and your vision with me today
<<2380>> but with all the listeners as well um I
<<2383>> learned a lot I think we're always
<<2385>> learning you know if you just to to end
<<2388>> it all if you have an attitude of oh
<<2392>> this is interesting if you if you're
<<2395>> open to always be willing to learn you
<<2399>> know because there is no end there is no
<<2403>> end to that path we're all walking but
<<2407>> we can take each other's hand sometimes
<<2410>> physically sometimes just you know
<<2412>> metaphorically and we walk each other
<<2414>> home and home is you not not not your
<<2418>> physical home home is a place where we
<<2422>> all feel connected home is a place where
<<2425>> we feel whole and and um yeah and I
<<2429>> think a lot of people joining DOA and
<<2432>> the DOA family feel like they're coming
<<2436>> home this is my to themselves yeah and
<<2439>> also to a tribe of people sharing the
<<2442>> same vision um having the same values
<<2445>> and I think this
<<2447>> is this is something that is so special
<<2449>> about DOA and the whole you know culture
<<2453>> that is lived also by our founders
<<2457>> family R and everyone you know being so
<<2461>> true with that thank you again Danny
<<2465>> it's been a pleasure talking to you I
<<2467>> cannot wait to be in your presence
<<2469>> physically we will and maybe sharing a
<<2472>> little cacao moment next time I will
<<2475>> bring some we have a little cacao
<<2476>> ceremony maybe someone actually this is
<<2479>> like a little bit of a you know funny
<<2481>> story to end you know someone asked me
<<2483>> because so many people within the D Tera
<<2487>> you know culture family that drink cacao
<<2491>> and they ask when is the Terra bringing
<<2493>> out their
<<2495>> cacao oh so you're using this podcast
<<2498>> moment I see what you're doing infused
<<2502>> with cardamon and vanilla you know what
<<2505>> Kum is my favorite essential oil that's
<<2507>> amazing but I love all the oils sorry I
<<2510>> have to admit same thank you so much um
<<2514>> this was wonderful um it was really a
<<2516>> pleas pleasure thank you Danny it was a
<<2519>> pleasure to to be able to talk to you
<<2521>> today and I cannot wait to to see you in
<<2524>> person yes let's share some more
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